Although I've never had any formal training in photography I've chatted to others who have and also my daughter went to art school for a few years.
The students I've talked to told me of teachers who push conceptual art and whose own photography wasn't that great. A case of "those who can do, those who can't teach"?
I don't know but none of the students I talked to were particularly impressed with their courses. Still, I suppose it looks good on a CV and is a way of networking.
For real world work though, I find dA to be better than a degree course. I've learned more in my 20 months on here than I could ever have learned in a tertiary institute.
To follow are some of my observations on why dA is such a great place of learning (yes, I'm having a quiet day at work, which is where my rambling journals originate)
DeclinesWhen I first joined dA I used to get quite precious and offended if I ever get a submission declined by a group. "How dare those peasants decline my masterpiece!!??"

I would leave a group if they regularly declined me, I quit #
The-Yard-Collective twice

Months later, after I had grown as a photographer, I looked back on a lot of those photos and realised they weren't that great. I've noticed that photos always seem to look better to me soon after I've taken them, but if I review them weeks later they often don't look so good. So I tend not to submit photos to groups that I've taken recently. If a recent photo appears in a group it's usually because someone in the group has requested it or because I think it's a fricking masterpiece (but I'll come to my senses and delete it in a week)
Groups will usually give you a reason for a decline if you ask and this can be a learning process for you.
Leave your ego alone and listen to what they have to say, we can all learn something and you're getting free advice. Often from photographers that are far more talented than university lecturers.
As with anything, there are a lot of cliches in photography. We've all seen hundreds of old buildings reflected in the glass of a skyscraper, thousands of photos of Converse Chucks, millions of leaping teenagers. The street photography equivalents are photos of beggars, poster shots, couples kissing, generic photos of people on the streets with no story or other interest about them and so on. Often these get declined as the mods have seen a dozen similar photos that same day.
I'm still learning and often don't take my own advice, see my comments on this photo


Technical issues are another reason for declines. My early uploads were pretty horrible and Mary would often tell me off. I was never offended by her making criticisms as I respected her work so much. And she was right, I needed to spend more time on the technical side of things and I'm slowly improving.
So that was a case where I learned from criticism and grew as a photographer from it, rather than getting bent and telling her to shove off

With that in mind, I noted a new photographer to dA when I saw his amazing photos had added sepia and vignetting. IMHO it spoiled what were wonderful photos. He could have told me to shove off but took the advice seriously and as a result a lot of people said his gallery was much better and soon after he got a DD after only a few months on dA.
So don't get bent if you get declined or someone offers criticism, treat it as a learning process and strive to improve then upload those wonderful, new improved photos!

PS Here's a couple of tips - if you want more money without working any harder:

And if you want to be thought of as a great photographer - stop submitting every photo you take and just choose the very best to upload.
None of the above applies to me of course
Thought for the day: Your first 10,000 photographs are your worst. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Photo of the day: from a stalwart of dA, the very talented
